Joe finds himself stuck between his nemesis and his lover's father, a billionaire tycoon who knows his real identity. Lockwood wants to ruin Rhys' reputation, ...
She even breaks into his flat and finds Marienne in The Cage before Joe even remembers where she is, and Nadia refuses to let Marienne just die in there. If we do get a Season 5...maybe Marienne and Nadia (and somehow Ellie) team up to finally take him down once and for all. At this point, Kate is the second person to know the "real" Joe—he's pretty much told her everything at this point, except the out-and-out killings—and she still loves him. After Marianne's heart-breaking POV episode, where we see a dead-eyed Joe kidnap her, sedate her, lock her in The Cage, and tempt her with drugs, she's barely holding on when Nadia finds her. Eventually, in order to shut up Rhys' arguments that he should just kill Marienne, he takes some tranquilizers and has an epic hallucination sequence where Gemma(?), Beck(!), and Love(!!!) finally show him that all the stalking and innocent murders will only end with his death. Her father left his whole empire to her, and she tells Joe that he's the person who's made her believe that she's not a bad person. Also, Rhys' body has since been found, making it clear that Lockwood planned for Joe to get caught and sent to prison, which would deal with the whole "a wife stabber is dating his daughter" problem. And Joe has dissociated so much that he can't remember where he put Marienne, since he still refuses to accept the dark side of him. The independent life she was proud of building all came from him, and now he wants her to stop playing at freedom and come collect her inheritance. After Joe snaps and strangles him to death, the truth is revealed, as another Rhys appears and walks over to the dead body. He interrogates him with some gruesome "ball torture" (luckily all left to the imagination), but Rhys insists he doesn't know anything. Joe goes to Rhys' house, where the author's alone, and forces his way in when Rhys pretends not to know him.
Part 2 of 'You' season 4 is now streaming on Netflix. Here's everything you need to know about the new episodes.
Although the plot may seem repetitive, you should know the new episodes lead up to a full-circle moment that makes it all worthwhile. [Netflix](https://www.purewow.com/entertainment/netflix-new-releases). [spoilers](https://www.purewow.com/entertainment/you-season-4-fan-questions) ahead*
You. (L-R) Ed Speleers as Rhys, Penn Badgley as Joe Goldberg in Photo: Netflix. This article contains spoilers for all of You season ...
[Creator Sera Gamble has hinted](https://www.vulture.com/article/you-season-4-who-is-the-killer-sera-gamble.html) that she and co-creator Greg Berlanti know where they want Joe to end up at the conclusion of the series, and it stands to reason that Netflix will give them the runway to get there. The only reason to root for his escape is to root for more You. In the last few beats of the season, we see the now purely evil version of Joe frame Nadia’s boyfriend for all the killings and then frame Nadia for the murder of her boyfriend. So while Kate is alive at the end of Season 4, she might not have very long to live. Nadia is too savvy to tell anyone about what she knows, so her status at the end of the season is pretty bleak. She has chosen to keep Joe by her side and has even paid good money to bring him back from the dead. The fact that we have to worry about the fate of SO MANY women in this show is very telling. In a creeptastic conclusion, we see Joe wander away to admire his reflection during an interview alongside the newly untouchable Kate — and, instead of Joe’s face, we see Rhys is in the glass, smiling back. The beta blockers slowed down her heart enough so that Joe thought she was dead, and dropped her in a park so her body could be found. It’s to the show’s credit that I didn’t really guess that Rhys was actually Joe for the first half of the season, but I did have some questions. While Love wasn’t completely innocent herself, she also appears in a sequence with Beck, who has been relentlessly haunting Joe since he killed her at the end of Season 1. For example, why did Rhys say he had to intervene to save Joe when Joe had already disarmed Roald during his attempt at playing the most dangerous game in the woods of Hampshire House?
Spoiler alert! Who was the real Eat the Rich killer in 'You' Season 4? And what's next for Joe Goldberg?
After killing the father (Greg Kinnear) of his latest paramour Kate (Charlotte Ritchie), Joe tries to die by suicide, jumping off a bridge, but is pulled from the water. He's no longer running from his past and seemingly happy in a relationship. But worse (from Joe's perspective), he also kidnapped his obsession Marienne (Tati Gabrielle) and held her captive in a glass cage. Although for much of Season 4 Joe appears to be in a battle of words and some actual violence with London mayoral hopeful Rhys (Ed Speleers), it turns out it was all a hallucination. Here's what to know, and what to expect in a potential fifth season. Well, at least Joe in a fugue state or multiple personality or whatever you want to call it.
You season 4, part 2 is officially here, and it's crystal clear that Joe Goldberg is up to his old tricks. ICYMI: the murderous stalker fakes his death in ...
The screen fades to black, and viewers later discover that Joe has moved to New York City with Kate, who inherited all of her father's money and influential status in the wake of his death. The murderous killer had already planted evidence connecting Edward to Rhys' murder and left proof connecting Nadia to Edward's murder in her apartment before calling the police. Kate uses her newfound power to help Joe return to the US with a clean slate. Unfortunately for Rhys, he suffered the IRL consequences of accidentally becoming one of Joe's fixations, and he was subsequently killed. His connection to Kate led him to her father's airport hangar in the final episode, where he sought revenge for his mistreatment of Kate. After Marienne's ex was killed in a robbery gone wrong, Love revealed that it was Joe who had killed Ryan and urged Marienne to take her daughter and leave before she was killed. Now that Joe is back to his old tricks, there's no telling what havoc he'll wreak in New York City in You season five. She gives her beta blocker pills to decrease her heart rate activity in an attempt to make Joe believe that she had committed suicide. He later woke up in a hospital bed with Kate at his side and appeared to come clean about the crimes he committed. He came up lucky when he notices one of her paintings in a park in Paris. Before settling down in London, Joe travels to Paris and "coincidentally" stumbles across Marienne, who was one of his past victims. Joe plans to turn over a new leaf with a new identity as a university professor named Jonathan Moore, but since this is You and it's Joe we're talking about, one can only guess that there would be a murderous trail left behind.
Warning: This post contains spoilers for part two of season four of You. Well, Joe Goldberg has done it again: killed a bunch of people, framed others for ...
Nadia is set on bringing Joe to justice but needs solid evidence to provide to the police, and in order to get it she must go back to his apartment. After finding Marienne in the glass box, passed out with an empty pill bottle, Goldberg assumes she’s dead so he takes her out of the box and leaves her on a bench in a park. When Joe wakes up in the hospital, Kate meets him there and tells him she inherited her father’s wealth and therefore power but in order for them to be together, he has to tell her the truth. Nadia tells Edward about their plan(s), which ended with Nadia meeting Marienne in the park after Joe dropped her there and gave her a drug to reverse the effects of the pills she took to wake her up. Nadia begins to snoop around Joe’s apartment when he’s gone and discovers his real name when her boyfriend, Edward—the son of a newspaper publisher—sends her leaked candid photos of Joe walking around with a bag of Indian food in multiple different pictures. Joe kills Lockwood and after an emotional conversation with the apparitional Montrose, he decides to die by suicide and jumps off a bridge, which he manages to survive because the police immediately rescue him. Viewers then see Montrose break down how Joe imagined this all and is, in fact, the person who killed all of the people who have been murdered this season, thereby continuing to be exactly who he was trying not to be. The identity of the killer is revealed to be Montrose, and Joe tries to figure out how to take him down to get him off his back. All of this leads him to the conclusion that he needs to die by suicide so as not to continue this vicious cycle of hurting women. But by the end of the remaining five episodes, he ultimately remains a serial killer addicted to protecting the woman he loves and almost, but not quite, getting caught. Fans of the show left off the first part of the season with Penn Badgley’s Joe finding out that the “Eat The Rich” killer was Rhys Montrose and becoming obsessed with taking him down. A month after the first part of Season 4 was released, Netflix finally released Part Two on March 9 and Goldberg’s story got wrapped up in a nice, neat(-ish) bow as it always does.
Need help unpacking the twists in Netflix's 'You' Season 4, Part 2? Decider breaks down the final five episodes and recaps that mind-boggling finale.
As for Nadia and Eddie, we flash back to her confrontation with Joe post-apartment search to learn that Joe murdered Eddie, framed him for Rhys’ murder, then framed Nadia for Eddie’s murder. You can come home again,” a clean-shaven Joe says as the camera shows him, Kate, and a reporter sitting in a swanky office with a view of New York City. In a voiceover, Joe explains that Blessing (Ozioma Whenu) and Sophie (Niccy Lin) bought Sundry House after Adam (Lukas Gage) died. In the spirit of mess, Phoebe marries Adam, then has a mental breakdown and is committed to a treatment facility. Then Joe finds Marienne and vows to let her go, but once Marienne learns she lost custody of her daughter Juliette, she says she has nothing to live for. But Joe corners her outside, swipes her phone, and deletes the photos. We’re SURE he’s dead this time, but he wakes up in the hospital after police rescued him, and Kate comes in to comfort him. [In the final minutes of Part 1](https://decider.com/2023/02/09/you-season-4-part-1-ending-explained/), Rhys locked Joe and Roald in a burning basement to die. Luckily, Joe swoops in to save Phoebe, then uses a severed ear Rhys planted in his freezer to frame her stalker as the Eat The Rich Killer. After Rhys reveals he has Marienne locked up in a cage, Joe feels compelled to harm him. After the chaos, Phoebe (who finally knows Adam is broke) denies his proposal, while Kate and Joe decide to date. We open with Joe attending one of Rhys’ speeches in the park, and as Joe’s watching Rhys, a mystery woman is watching Joe.
Even though some fans figured out the major twist in You season 4, part 2 on Netflix, there were other shocking elements that left jaws dropped.
But he’s saved in the nick of time by Kate, who is relieved to have her man back and vows to protect him if he did the same for her. Consumed with guilt and anger for having done such heinous things at the hands of, well, his own mind manifesting as Rhys, Joe tries to end it all by jumping into the ocean. When she raided his apartment, found a key, and pieced together a puzzle to figure out where it led, she was shocked to find Marienne. Meanwhile, Nadia’s love of murder mysteries clued her into the fact that some things just didn’t add up and Joe was probably more involved than he let on. Instead, he was having a psychotic break and everything that had happened was his doing. Initially, the assumption was that Joe presumably wanted Rhys all to himself, though the twists and turns that unraveled in the back half of the season proved otherwise. Ironically, Joe later learned Tom knew his true identity and was using that detail to blackmail Joe into killing Rhys. Why was Joe always at the center of everything that was going on? Seemingly having fulfilled his promise to Rhys, Joe discovered that the evil killer wasn’t done with him yet. Nonetheless, in the beginning, the tables had turned and Rhys was in the driver’s seat, manipulating Joe like a puppet. But in meeting with Connie, Joe realized the wealthy man didn’t deserve to go down for crimes he didn’t commit. The killer was revealed to be Rhys, and Joe narrowly escaped with his life.
As he tried to protect his new lady love Kate (Charlotte Ritchie) and shockingly let his ex-obsession Marienne (Tati Gabrielle) go back to her daughter in Paris ...
From what we saw of Nadia, she was a righteous and brave young woman who wasn't afraid to do what was right no matter the cost, so it's unlikely she'll go quietly into being set up for murder. So ride along as we go through all of the biggest video game releases you’ll be able to play on PlayStation, Xbox, and PC in March 2023.Also, you can browse the IGN Playlist of all the biggest titles launching in March. It turns out the Rhys that Joe knew was nothing more than a figment of his twisted mind, a haunting figure that he'd created to cover up the truth of his own actions. We don't know what Joe told her but it'll be very interesting to see whether she really is just as much of a psychopath as him when it comes to their future together. And if there's one thing killers love, it's to return to the scene of the crime. Well, aside from narrative invention and a need to keep viewers guessing, it was to hide the truth about what he'd done to Marienne, capturing and -- in his mind -- killing her. It's a bleakly neat ending to the class war themes that have driven this season, but instead of the underdog winning we end up with killer Joe on top of the world, protected by Kate's money and influence. While you may have gotten an inkling that the smarmy hunk wasn't all he seemed to be with his near supernatural ability to show up at Joe's home without invitation and torment him into his cat and mouse games, you still might not have realized that Joe had really gone full Fight Club. A lot of fan theories got close to this truth — the real Eat the Rich killer was Joe Goldberg all along. With that out of the way the stage is set in the finale for Nadia to finally take down Joe and uncover his globetrotting crimes to the world. In a brutal final twist Joe sets up Nadia's boyfriend Eddie (Brad Alexander) for the Eat the Rich killings, murders the student, and hands Nadia the knife. As he tried to protect his new lady love Kate (Charlotte Ritchie) and shockingly let his ex-obsession Marienne (Tati Gabrielle) go back to her daughter in Paris, it seemed like Joe was finally putting his evil past behind him.
'You' season 4 part 2 revealed the real identity of the Eat the Rich Killer and the fate of Joe Goldberg — all the details.
“It’s like we can dig in and not worry about having a perfectly protected stance, because at the end of the day, Joe is [an unreliable narrator and a despicable human being](https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/pictures/penn-badgleys-quotes-about-joe-goldbergs-ending-on-you/).” [we had been talking about for a couple of seasons](https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/pictures/you-season-4-everything-we-know/),” she said. So to me, Joe is, like, he’s a many-sided die. “Joe is a perfect device because you can delve into something, but you always have the safety cord or the safety net of, ‘Yeah, but he’s a hypocrite.’ We are all exploring something earnestly, I think. “Greg would point out that the pressure on him only gets greater the more he runs and tries to start over. In addition to being unmasked as the killer of every person who died in season 4 part 1, You also gave fans a second surprise: Marienne (Tati Gabrielle) never escaped at all. So, in a way, I really like that,” he told “And if we forget that and get lured in by his unreliable narration and think we’re actually in a story about a man who’s trying to change and trying to fall in love and trying to find somebody, well then we’re too much under Joe’s spell. [Charlotte Ritchie](https://www.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/penn-badgley-filmed-less-you-intimacy-scenes-due-to-marriage/)). It’s not him. It’s You. And that’s good on one hand, because it means we’ve made this thing in a compelling enough way that that’s what it does.
The finale saw Kate (Charlotte Ritchie), her father Tom Lockwood (Greg Kinnear), Nadia (Amy Leigh Hickman), Marienne (Tati Gabrielle) and Joe all face off in ...
For more from the biggest stars in TV, listen to [The Radio Times Podcast](https://www.radiotimes.com/audio/podcasts/). But if the look on Marienne's face reveals anything, it's that she isn't done with this story of Joe and probably won't let his newfound fame continue if she has anything to do with it. The police will think it was Eddie that killed Rhys and then Nadia killed Eddie because of it – but Nadia has been set up for murder. But when recounting the story, Nadia and Eddie realise that Joe is such an obsessive that he would collect souvenirs of his past victims so they set off to his flat in the hope of getting evidence. Joe has killed him and in her daze, hands the knife (murder weapon) to Nadia. The tub of pills Joe had left in the cage previously were swapped round with some of the tablets Nadia got from Eddie, all in order to stage a suicide. He narrates that with the help of Kate, a cybersecurity team, publicists and Tom's former lieutenant Cynthia, search results have been scrubbed, news archives have been hacked and the Madre Linda chief of police was bribed all in order to allow Joe to wipe the slate clean. We also catch a glimpse of Rhys in the window reflection and as Joe says he's just "more honest" about killing now, season 4 ends with a positively eerie image of a grinning Joe, as smug as ever. But naturally, his family managed to cover it up and conceal it from the newspapers. Although he hoped to kill himself, he later wakes up in the hospital with Kate by his side and the two profess their love for one another. He doctors the murder scene, disposing of Hugo's body and afterwards, comes to a bridge to confront his imagined vision of Rhys. Early in the finale, Joe is faced with Kate's admission that she feels as though her father "owns" her, citing examples where Tom has destroyed her relationships and opened countless doors for her throughout her career.
[Ed. note: This will have spoilers for part 1.] A closeup of Rhys Montrose, wearing a black suit in front of a bookcase, ...
There is always a “You” that Joe is obsessing over, addressing in his thoughts, building a whole imaginary identity around a person he watches from afar and up close, never really accepting the real person in front of him over the version he created. This traps Joe as a pawn in a cat-and-mouse game between Rhys and his girlfriend’s father, as each wants Joe to kill the other. Two episodes into part 2, this season of You gets turned on its head when Joe arrives to kill Rhys Montrose and discovers he has no idea who Joe is. Instead, he settles for attempting to murder him by trapping him in a cellar set ablaze, which Joe survives — only to find that his new nemesis is running for mayor, and he might be the only person who knows the truth about him. Given his considerable resources, he also knows that Joe is not Jonathan Moore, and suspects his spotty history with dead women means that Joe is, in fact, a killer. While this sort of thing could conceivably lead somewhere good, it’s also a premise that could undo the show’s careful work to not overly empathize with or justify Joe, even as it remains firmly rooted in his perspective.
It was no secret that the Penn Badgley-led series needed to switch up its premise. After three seasons of running storylines that felt far too similar and the ...
We’ve seen Joe fail to understand just how horrible of a person he is through two seasons and watched him have to confront a person he saw as crazier than him in Season 3. The series may have just showed us what the plan is for Season 5: what Joe looks like when he understands everything he’s doing is bad, and he just accepts it. The lack of interaction we see with Rhys and everyone else in the group also adds up now that we know he was never there in the first place. It's clear that there's never going to be a redemption arc for Joe Goldberg as evident in the final scene of this season in which he sees a reflection of himself, and it's of Rhys, signifying that darkness is still in him. The Rhys we saw was actually non-existent, the conversations he had with Joe were not a two-way dialogue, it was just Joe talking to the surrounding air. So everything that we saw in Part 1 involving Rhys was actually not what it appeared to be and all the off-screen acts that we were told Rhys had committed were actually all Joe. Immediately after the paint ruins his work, Simons urges Kate to find this woman or else, a clear threat that didn't read as serious in the moment but now has a new undertone to it, as it's at that point when Joe sees Simon as a threat to Kate. The texts that Joe receives about being watched and suggesting the person who was sending these messages was the one behind the killings all have a new meaning when you realize this was all a one-way exchange he was having between his two personalities. The reveal allowed for a month's worth of dialogue about how Joe will get out of this predicament and how he can use his experience (you know, he’s murdered a person or two in his past) to help take down Rhys. What helped to fuel this was the teaser that came out for Part 2 in which Love (Victoria Pedretti) Everything that we saw in Part 1 was thrown for a loop with the reveal in Part 2 that Joe was the one behind the three murders believed to have been carried out by Rhys. In attempting to rewrite itself, You was able to accomplish what it set out to do through the first five episodes, even at the expense of feeling too far removed from what made the series so popular.
'You' Season 4, Part 2 ends with many twists and Joe Goldberg (Penn Badgley) once again on top and more powerful than ever.
While it felt like the season was going full Fight Club when Joe threw Evil Rhys over the side of the bridge, we get our first hint that New York Joe has decided to embrace the evil when he looks out the window and we see a reflection of Rhys in the glass. Joe places the knife in her hand, and tells her what's about to happen: he's given an anonymous tip that Eddie killed Rhys, and has set it up so that Nadia looks like the person who killed Eddie—because she found out that Eddie "killed" Rhys. And maybe we'll see that start to happen in Season 5. We'd love to see Ellie return and help take Joe down, but with Ortega's career exploding as much as it has, that may prove difficult. Marianne knows better than anyone alive just how much of a monster Joe is, and while she may not want to mess with the life she's managed to find with her daughter, she also may feel a calling to bring him down. Most importantly (and in a twist that was fairly easy to see coming), Marianne's "death" was an elaborate scheme set up by Nadia and Marianne; Nadia was the one texting Marianne's phone as her friend about custody, and Nadia found drugs that were able to slow Marianne's heartrate down to make it seem like she was dead. London Joe is scaring the absolute crap out of Nadia with a big smile on his face, telling her that his circumstances have changed. A little of that typical Joe Goldberg internal monologue—he regrets his decision to jump, yada yada—and we fade out. The two of them also cooked up the fake suicide note to leave Marianne's body in public so that she could be found; this was really so Nadia could give her an adrenaline shot and bring her back to life to make her great escape. She tells him that her dad is now dead, she has all of his resources, and she can help him cover everything up and start new. We don't even have to talk much about the back-and-forth; Tom thinks Joe killed Rhys just for him, Joe just wants to get rid of Tom because of how horrible he was to Kate (Charlotte Richie) and how much impact he's seemingly had on her life (Whether he's telling the truth is anyone's guess. [the person we thought was the Eat The Rich Kille](https://www.menshealth.com/entertainment/a42780129/you-season-4-part-1-ending-explained-killer/)r, Rhys Montrose, was actually Joe losing his mind all along, and Joe had never even met the real Rhys Montrose.
What do fans think will happen to Joe in Part 2 of You Season 4? Let's discuss. Penn Badgley as Joe Goldberg in You season 4 Netflix.
[Love will be returning for season 4](https://movieweb.com/you-season-four-love-loss-live/), and this has got fans running wild with all the possibilities of what is to come. It is also strange that although Rhys has taken something from each victim (except for Gemma, whose death may not be related to the "Eat the Rich Killer"), these items have appeared in Joe's possession. All the interactions that Joe has had with Rhys have been separate from the group, and, in fact, the only time that we see the two interact among the group is during a dinner in episode 2, where Joe responds to a question from Rhys, to which Adam asks "What was that?" [Rhys is not real](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniesoteriou/you-fan-theory-part-2-plot-twist) and instead a part of Joe's subconscious. After attempting to frame Joe for the death of Malcolm, Rhys discovers who "Jonathan" really is and how he ended up in London. Especially with big reveals in the trailer for part 2, there is much to be discussed among fans.
Showrunner Sera Gamble weighs in on Joe's state of mind in the final moments of 'YOU' Season 4.
In fact, “not only has he not changed, he’s actually become a less conflicted version of himself,” Gamble explains. A quick shot of Rhys in Joe’s reflection in the window confirms that Joe’s dark passenger is still very much along for the ride. The finale closes with Joe back in New York and living under his original name, thanks to Kate’s expensive team working to game virtually every system imaginable.