Bechdel test

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'Fire Island' and the Bechdel Test: Turning the Debacle into a ... (Hollywood Reporter)

In 1985, cartoonist Alison Bechdel drew a sequence in her strip Dykes to Watch Out For that depicted a pair of women walking by a movie theater.

“Two men talking to each other about the female protagonist of an Alice Munro story in a screenplay structured on a Jane Austen novel = pass. When it comes to art, each person is entitled to their opinion (even when it’s an unpopular one). But the sentiment underlying the criticism of this trio of wildly different films has something in common with the perpetual foreigner syndrome that continues to plague Asian Americans, even a couple of centuries into their presence on this continent. “The protagonists are universalized, stripped of history and culture, lacking any personal connection to the wider world,” Brody wrote, while Bradshaw dinged the film for “never letting up for a single second to let us care about, or indeed believe in, any of its characters.” “The target audience for this one feels very specific, and very narrow,” he wrote in his review (which the site later pulled) of the animated film about a Chinese-Canadian adolescent girl. Why was there an impulse to hold a film being celebrated for being a “Diversity Movie” to a higher standard than a film that doesn’t even attempt to be anything of the sort? It has spawned variants aiming to account for inclusion behind the scenes as well as intersectionally, sometimes getting extremely granular about stereotypes and tropes in depictions involving women (“one point if a sex scene shows foreplay before consummation”).

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Does 'Fire Island' Pass the Bechdel Test? One Tweet Is Making Fans ... (Decider)

After writer and podcast host Hanna Rosin watched the new Hulu film Fire Island, she tweeted that the film, which consists of a mostly gay, male Asian cast, ...

Rosin, a white woman, and her tweet, are being received in much the same way that the critical review of Turning Red, written by a white man, Sean O’Donnell, was received. The test, named for its creator, Alison Bechdel, consists of three criteria for a film: It has to have at least two [named] women in it; these women must talk to each other; and their conversation(s) must be about something besides a man. Another took sharper aim at Rosin, sarcastically writing, “How come this film about Asian gay men (a group never centered in a mainstream movie before) is not also about MEEEE?!?”

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'Fire Island' Movie Bechdel Test Remarks Spark Fierce Debate (Newsweek)

Writer Hanna Rosin has angered a number of movie buffs on Twitter Tuesday for her remarks about female representation in the new movie, which is a gay rom-com ...

It asks whether a work of art features 1/ at least two women 2/ who talk to each other 3/ about something other than a man. Is this revenge for all those years of the gay boy best friend?" "Do we just ignore the drab lesbian stereotypes bc cute gay Asian boys?

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This Terrible 'Fire Island' Hot Take Suggests It's Time To Rethink the ... (The Mary Sue)

The film's primary cast is made up of mainly Asian queer people playing queer people. There's more than just one representation problem to solve in movies.

White feminism has a long history of making arguments about inclusion or visibility only if specifically white women are included—from first-wave feminism and its blatant racism to second-wave feminism and its exclusion of queer women (and racism), to this modern idea that media is not valid unless it passes an arbitrary test. The entire point was to discuss the lack of queer female representation in fiction. First of all, how dare anyone call Ms. Margaret Cho “drab”? That woman has never been drab a day in her life, and no one should forget that. The new film test should be: only see a movie if its story is told through the lens of literally anyone other than a white, straight, cisgender man. Do we just ignore the drab lesbian stereotypes bc cute gay Asian boys?” (Rosin has since deleted and apologized for the tweet, shown below.) So far, 2022 has given us a lot of great new queer content, as the streaming giants have tried to step up their game on representation.

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SNL's Bowen Yang jokes about Fire Island 'failing the Bechdel Test' (The Independent)

Hulu's new LGBTQ+ spin on Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice, stars Yang, Joel Kim Booster and Conrad Ricamora, and is about a group of queer friends who gather ...

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Do Queer Films Like Fire Island Need to Pass the Bechdel Test? (Advocate.com)

A claim that the new gay rom-com hit Fire Island fails what's become a white feminist measure has spurred a debate on Twitter.

Is applying this metric to a film that focuses on the experiences of a marginalized group like queer Asians even fair, or is this “call out” an example of peak white feminism? For those unfamiliar with the Bechdel-Wallace test ( the author’s preferred name), it began as a joke in Alison Bechdel’s comic Dykes to Watch Out For as criticism for male-dominated films and the lack of female representation in mainstream cinema. It features the likes of Joel Kim Booster, Bowen Yang, and Margaret Cho, and is being hailed for centering queer Asian individuals — but, as it turns out, not by everyone.

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What is Bechdel Test? Writer Hanna Rosin SLAMMED for criticizing ... (MEAWW)

Rosin took to Twitter and wrote that the LGBTQ rom-com gets 'an F- on the Bechdel test in a whole new way'

It's a cliche but the fact that I didn't see it coming means I have a lot to learn. What I had to say was beside the point, not to mention a buzzkill on a fun summer movie. It's a cliche but the fact that I didn't see it coming means I have a lot to learn." you can instead think about the ways in which you center yourself in situations because you feel entitlement and examine how you can become a better person." "What I had to say was beside the point, not to mention a buzzkill on a fun summer movie. Are you really that self absorbed, so unable to step outside of yourself for one moment, that you can’t see that maybe it’s not *supposed* to be about you?

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Alison Bechdel Officially Gives 'Fire Island' a Pass Amid Failed ... (IndieWire)

Hulu's "Fire Island" film, a queer AAPI take on "Pride & Prejudice," was criticized for failing the Bechdel test for representation.

It was important to me to reflect the reality of what it is to be a gay man of color in the movie.” Director Andrew Ahn added, “The perspective of this film is Joel’s perspective as a gay Asian American man on this island. Rosin continued, “What I had to say was beside the point, not to mention a buzzkill on a fun summer movie. Cho herself responded to the tweet, writing, “I didn’t realize I was drab. It originated, however, as a joke in Bechdel’s 1985 comic strip “Dykes to Watch Out For,” and there is some debate about how seriously Bechdel intended it to be applied to discussions of all media. Is this revenge for all those years of the gay boy best friend?”

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Alison Bechdel Has Amended the Bechdel Test Just for Fire Island (Vanity Fair)

The cartoonist chimed into the fiery Twitter debate spurred by one user's claim that the gay romcom Fire Island does not pass her namesake Bechdel Test.

So now all you need to pass the Bechdel Test is a film where two women talk about something other than a man or two men vigorously debate the content of a Nobel Prize–winning female author in a screenplay based on a Jane Austen novel. It’s a cliche but the fact that I didn’t see it coming means I have a lot to learn.” “Two men talking to each other about the female protagonist of an Alice Munro story in a screenplay structured on a Jane Austen novel = pass.”

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A writer tweeted 'Fire Island' failed the Bechdel test. Many online ... (NBC News)

Writer Hanna Rosin apologized after a now-deleted tweet of hers criticized Hulu's "Fire Island" for failing to adequately represent women.

"Two men talking to each other about the female protagonist of an Alice Munro story in a screenplay structured on a Jane Austen novel = pass." She continued: "What I had to say was beside the point, not to mention a buzzkill on a fun summer movie. "exhausted," the official Twitter account of Grindr, an LGBTQ dating app, wrote in a tweet.

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Does 'Fire Island' Pass The Bechdel Test? (NYLON)

Critics are arguing over whether the queer rom-com passes the iconic test — and whether it even matters.

“Two men talking to each other about the female protagonist of an Alice Munro story in a screenplay structured on a Jane Austen novel = pass. One, it has to have at least two women in it, who, two, talk to each other about, three, something besides a man.” These measures came to be known as the Bechdel Test, and since then, they’ve been applied to countless films to make a point about Hollywood misogyny. “So @hulu #FireIslandMovie gets an F- on the Bechdel test in a whole new way,” the Editorial Director for New York Magazine’s podcast wrote in a since-deleted tweet earlier this week.

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